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Q: In
the old testament, the Bible talks about Satan or Lucifer as an
Angel of Light who can appear as light (truth) but is a liar and
a deceiver...Would you discuss this with me?
A:
As for your question about Satan, (also known by Christians
as Lucifer, the Adversary and the Devil):
We have a very different understanding of this character than
the Christian/Hebrew/Islamic tradition. Lucifer-Son of Morning
was a highly esteemed being in the Koropean land of Xeon,
pre-life. This isn't spoken about in Genesis 1, but it will be
noted later. Lucifer rebelled against the Elohim - the Father,
Mother and Son. He desired glory for himself and wanted to
compel the sons and daughters of God on Earth to obey all the
commandments and desires of God, so that 100% would return to
God in the afterlife, having committed no sins. The Elohim did
not agree with this; besides exalting Lucifer, it took
away people's freedom of choice. They expected and desired
people to make mistakes and to be able to learn and grow greater
than they had been, by recognizing, repenting and overcoming
their mistakes. If everyone was simply compelled to do
everything correctly, they would neither learn nor grow.
Because of his rebellion against the plan of Elohim, Lucifer was
cast out of the Koropean Realm and cursed to live without ever
being able to have a physical body. This is where the word
"damn" comes from; as to damn someone is like a dam on the
water, it stops their progression. If Lucifer can never have a
physical body, but must always remain in spiritual form, he can
never progress to a higher state.
There were a number of spirit children who rebelled along with
Lucifer in Xeon and they were also cast out and given the same
curse. This is why there are accounts, even in the Christian
scriptures, of people being possessed, or even a herd of pigs
being possessed. Possession however, is something else that is
misunderstood. Cast out spirits, commonly called demons or
devils, cannot just enter someone's body and take over as is
often thought and depicted in movies and books. First, a person
would have to be in a VERY mentally weakened and disrupted state
for that to occur, and even if it did, their body would not be
controlled by the possession, merely further disrupted than it
already was, which could lead the person to an even more erratic
behavior. If the person regained a measure of sanity, the
possessor would be forced to depart, unable to exist in the
presence of a mind in a normal state.
It shows you how desperate cast out spirits are and how great
the curse was that they would choose to enter into the body of
a pig, just to experience a shadow of what it is like to have a
physical body. Even with animals, a possession would be a very
rare thing. Like in humans, the animal would have to first be
in a VERY disrupted mental state from drugs or something else.
In Christian/Hebrew/Islamic mythology, Satan has great influence
on people to entice them into committing evil acts. This belief
is very different from our understanding. Yeshua taught that the
Adversary is not some being like Satan that is outside of us,
but is part of our own duality of self. No matter who we are,
(even Yeshua) we have a part of us that is called to the
light, and another part that is enticed to darkness. There are
reasons for this. As Yeshua said, if we had not tasted the
bitter, we would not appreciate the sweet. It is by exercising
our will power to live in the light, by our own choice, despite
the lure of the dark, that we become better and more powerful
than we were. This is coupled with repentance as a vehicle to
reestablish the light and balance in our lives on those
occasions when we do give into temptations we should not have.
Repentance serves a greater purpose as well because of the
humility and contriteness involved, and the sincere efforts made
to speak with God about our problems, draws us closer to God in
ways that living a perfect life in the light do not.
A great example of this distinction that the Adversary is within
ourselves, and not some external being like Satan, is found in
Vivus,
Chapter 10. This is a similar account as found in the
Christian Bible where Satan tempts Jesus before he begins his
ministry. But read the account in Vivus, Chapter 10 and it will
likely make much more sense than the Christian Bible account.
Here's a partial quote of verse 21 "Then the whirlwind came
down again from the cloud and carried Yeshua to the top of the
temple, and the voice of the adversary within came again into
his head, saying, “Prove to yourself that you are really the
only begotten Son of God and cast yourself from the pinnacle..."
Notice it says "adversary WITHIN", not just adversary. If you
read the whole chapter you can get a greater understanding of
this principle.
Now the Christian/Hebrew/Islamic tradition of the devil is very
handy for them. It gives them two powerful tools to further
their religions.
1. Whenever people sin they can avoid some personal
responsibility by basically saying or thinking "The Devil made
me do it." In essence, "I sinned, but I wouldn't have done it
if I hadn't been actively enticed by the Devil."
Celestines on the other hand believe very much in personal
responsibility and accountability. If we sin, it is because WE
chose to sin, and we were enticed, not by an external Devil, but
by our own weakness. For most, the other religions have more
appeal because they lead people to believe that their sins were
not really all their fault.
2. The other use that religions make of the Devil is to keep
their congregations in line. They tell their members that Satan
is a great liar and deceiver and if anyone tries to teach them
something new, that is not taught in their church, why that's
just Satan trying to deceive them and lead them astray. It
never ceases to amaze me how often this little tool is used by
people of various religions to try to prevent their members, or
their family members, from looking at anything else outside of
the little box they are in. Their illogical rationale is: If it
is different, and especially if it makes sense and sounds
appealing, it must be Satan trying to deceive them and lead them
astray." This is an important principle to understand because
you will encounter it often as people are kept in virtual
imprisonment by their religions for fear that anything different
has to be of Satan.
The reality as taught by Yeshua, is that truth can be found many
places and that no place has a monopoly, including the Church of
Celestine Light. That doesn't mean that we are not full to the
brim with wonderful truths taught by Elohim, but we aren't the
only ones who have truth and light, and portions can be found in
many other places as well. What we find in our church is a
great accumulation of truth and light as taught by Yeshua
himself. But we don't claim a monopoly, nor discourage our
members from looking and finding truth and light in other places
as well. If you have received the Gift of the Holy Spirit after
baptism, then you will always have the spirit of the Mother of
Elohim to guide you and help you separate the wheat from the
chaff in the truth department.
One of the most interesting things I have observed over my years
about people and religious institutions is those with the least
truth are the most fearful, guilt-promoting, rule-following,
obedient, closed-minded, apocalyptic, and everyone's a terrible
sinner, oriented. They tend to claim they have 100% of the truth
and if anyone even dares to peek at anything else they are
"being led astray by Satan." Their members are kept in line and
motivated more by fear than love.
On the other hand, those with the most truth, encourage
confidence and personal self-empowerment. They are uplifting,
optimistic, open-minded, and not afraid for their members to
explore beyond the boundaries of their religion. Love is their
mantra and fear is not found.
Q: I live in
Europe and am very much in harmony with almost all the teachings
of the
Church of
Celestine Light except for the emphasis on married
relationships. Hardly anyone in
Europe
is married anymore. We live together with the ones we love,
have children with them, and maybe spend our life with them, but
all just by mutual desire and consent without the formality or
legal entanglements of marriage. When it speaks so often of the
importance of marriage in the Revelation Bible should that be
taken to just apply to that time 2000 years ago or does the
church carry those teachings forward into the modern era?
A: (by Embrosewyn Tazkuvel) Thank you for your excellent
question. There really are no teachings in the Revelation Bible
that were applicable only to that time in history. Though it
may have involved situations unique to that time period, if
it included teachings of Yeshua, they are universal and
timeless.
Concerning marriage vs living together, married in every way
except formally, there still remains an energetic difference.
We do not judge in anyway those who choose to live together
outside the bonds of marriage, and many people in that situation
are good and wonderful people and devoted partners, and parents
to their children, and enthusiastically welcomed in the church.
And being married is not a guarantee of bliss. But as anyone who
has both lived together in a relationship without marriage and
been together in a marriage will attest, there is a difference
energetically in how the relationship feels. Most people who
have experienced both feel there is a higher level of commitment
in a marriage and a greater desire to be in harmony and pleasing
to your companion, as well as a greater willingness to listen
and compromise to reach a harmonious middle ground.
This energetic difference becomes important in the success
of many aspects of life, but has particular significance in
certain high level ordinances and use of gifts of personal power
within the church, especially the
Circles
of Power (Chapter 76 of Vivus) from which many great
miracles are accomplished. The power of the synergy between one
or more people in harmony is not added, but multiplied. The
closer and stronger the personal bond between two or more people
is, the greater the multiplication becomes. There are certain
ceremonies and spiritual actions such as the Katah and Shanar
Circles of Power, that are restricted to either all participants
the same sex, or if coed, all participants must be married.
It is within these circles that we can see without doubt the
differences in energy. To achieve the greatest spiritual effect
we need to have the most powerful alignment of synergistic
energies.
Remember also that this life is also only a step in the stairway
of eternity, and as we progress the importance of the synergy of
commitment and love in marriage becomes increasingly essential.
As we look to the bond of our Father and Mother in heaven and
all that has been done through that bond, we have the promise
that we too can become great creators in the universe as we
follow after their example and light.
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